I wonder when the last time a committee of three guys talking to some poor "sinner" in front of them said well.......I guess we will just "wait on Jehovah".
My guess is pretty much never.
february 2016 study watchtower"prove yourself loyal to jehovah" - week of april 18th to 24th"15. if a brother treats us unfairly, how should we react?
15 in congregations of jehovah’s people today, it is very unlikely that we would be treated unjustly.
however, those taking the lead among us are imperfect men and could misinterpret our actions.
I wonder when the last time a committee of three guys talking to some poor "sinner" in front of them said well.......I guess we will just "wait on Jehovah".
My guess is pretty much never.
after the worst introduction i could ever make on the forum i would like to reintroduce myself and make a fresh start on the forum and hopefully over time i will be able to redeem myself.
i have changed my user name which was over dramatic and ridiculous in the cold light of day but for transparency and to show i am not trying to hide anything i have adapted the original name and it now has a more positive feel.
after reading a lot of posts on this forum i am feeling more optimistic about my future.
Welcome. Looks like I missed something......but no worries. The board has all kinds here bud. Welcome.
There is little to say about what you are going through. its an emotionally confusing time, and there is little to do other than go through the process. Its similar to the grieving process in my mind. There are stages to it that seem to mirror grieving is what I mean.
this is a pretty good example of the limitations of "bloodless medicine", and why the informed choice should always be "blood conservation" medicine, which retains the safety net of blood transfusion when medically required.
sadly, the watchtower fails to inform jws regarding these important limitations, and their potentially disastrous consequences.. http://www.dailyreportonline.com/id=1202750028414/jury-awards-100k-to-family-of-jehovahs-witness-who-died-after-refusing-blood-transfusion?mcode=0&curindex=0&curpage=3&slreturn=20160118223352.
Great research Orphan Crow.
Absolutely unbelievable. 100K is certainly a token amount. Being that the jury did in fact believe she was the greatest architect of her own death by not allowing a full suite of possible tools at the doctors disposal, it seems the sum was essentially to backstop further action, since the hospital seems to have been poorly run and not handled her case very well. You would think a bloodless specialist group would have it a little better!
Of course as OC pointed out, this is no doubt the base for all dubs in the area to get medical treatment.
In fairness, it sounds like such a freak issue, that there really is no winning in this situation.
..."we are"--at this point i began shaking my head no--"stopping by to share a scripture.".
she had the wt and bible in her hand.. "please do not come to this house ever again.".
"ok we will put you on the do not call list.
I dont know. I can't say anything to people that come to my door, because word would get out very fast. If I wasn't near a place everyone knew me, I would probably have one pre "UN"witness presentation to give them. Something short and sweet. I could tell them my mother was one of jehovahs witnesses, and the thing that got me was______. One thought.....in and out. Then ask them to please place me on the do not call list.
When done with kindness and respect, it works. Someone talked to me in a way that got me thinking. i try to do the same when appropriate. the sweet old 90 year olds.......they get a pass and a smile.
i see the watchtower are getting extremely desperate now.http://jwtalk.net/forums/topic/25503-injustice-abounds-for-our-dear-russian-brothers/check out the professionally edited video, using professional equipment!
Good grief....
i see the watchtower are getting extremely desperate now.http://jwtalk.net/forums/topic/25503-injustice-abounds-for-our-dear-russian-brothers/check out the professionally edited video, using professional equipment!
While no fan of the religion of Jehovahs Witnesses for a plethora of reasons, I am less of a fan of squelching free speech and in fact planting evidence against otherwise innocent people. This is so Russian its almost cartoonish.
They don't deserve it, and unfortunately the authorities there doing this may not even realize its just a rallying cry for the oppressed JW's earth wide. I'm pretty sure the Russian Orthodox Church clearly teaches everlasting hellfire for non believers. Is that really any more "extremist" than end times rhetoric?
JWtalk is hilarious. The comments.........."Russia has a powerful demon prince in charge! It must be soooooo close!"
well, that's the claim.
is this sexy, or isn't it?
are male witnesses now allowed to wear eye liner?.
given derek o'hares legal issues for his brave protests i have created an fb banner to show not only exjwsolidarity but also that we appreciate derek's protests.
if you have not viewed his protests go to the "derek ohare1" youtube channel.
here is the fb banner that was i created fix it to your own fb page and show support for derek and all strugglers!.
Ugh. This guy.
This stuff does nothing, let me repeat......NOTHING to get people out of the organization. This isn't bravery....its therapy.
He harasses generally innocent people at kingdom halls and assemblies. Simon basically said it but all this does is reinforce the narrative the WT feeds the public of the fire breathing apostate with nothing better to do.
It does no good. I sympathize with the amount of pain that could cause a man to unhinge at that level, but many of us have been through it, and worse. I am sure if the branch could covertly hire people at assemblies to do this they would. That is how much he is literally working against that which he claims to be doing it for.
Protest........these are not protests.
any exjw's or faders out there in mensa?
any online groups for this niche?
warning of a long boring post ahead.
i feel like i need to vent my story out, as i feel quite helpless at the moment.. i'm 31 year old, married, father of toddler with another one on the way, due later this month.
i've been serving as elder for about 4 years now in a south florida congregation.
Sanchy,
Your story reads like my own. I mean REALLY reads like my own. It took me years to finally leave (I'm in my later 30's), but having a young child really made me think differently about what I was taught. Something about your early 30's seems to spark introspection and the ability to "think for yourself". Its almost like you develop a real understanding of integrity when you consider your children.
My wife was a pioneer for 17 years (since she was 13), need greater, daughter of missionaries and branch overseers. She was on assemblies, conventions, etc... She is now out. If she can be out, anyone can. I really believe that.
PM me if you ever want to talk.